I was thinking about using graphene OS, but I’ve read some lemmy users dislike this OS due to perceived misleading advertising and the pixel 7a you’re supposed to install graphene on because it’s from google (an advertising company).
Another option would be lineage OS, but there is so much false information about this OS, namely compatible phones that simply don’t work with this OS and no support.
what works for you? I want a phone with no google, that doesn’t force me to use the manufacturer’s ecosystem and that won’t show the apps I don’t want or need (on an asus I own you cannot neither get rid nor hide bloatware)
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Ι use Murena’s e/OS, I like the iphone-likeness of it. It works.
I am very happy with my moto g42 and Calix OS. The phone is reasonably priced (around 120.- euros).
Only downside is you have to register online to get full root access and I also had to wait like three days till everything unlocked. Otherwise I found the process very easy even for a caveman like me.
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It really depends on what you want from your phone and what matters to you.
I recently got a refurbished OnePlus 9 and put lineage on it. I would have gone with a pixel and graphene, but pixels with more storage are hard to come by and expensive.
Find which roms are available for your phone and choose from there, or if you want to change the Asus phone, look at your target specs and which phone ROM combination you can find
For me LineageOS is a good baseline. I don’t have anything against “privacy” OS’s but they’re not really for me. I just use F-Droid to get apps and don’t care about compatibility with proprietary stuff so neither microG nor the GrapheneOS sandboxed Play services are of interest to me. I don’t use GrapheneOS because I don’t have or want a Pixel phone.
LineageOS significantly increases the lifespan of devices it supports and that’s important to me. Planned obsolescence is cancer.
My ideal mobile OS would be something like Mobian (or even better, a GNU Guix based distribution) but it should be noted that AOSP is also a Linux based operating system and thus anything derived from that is a Linux mobile OS.
Not in my ideal spot but tolerating Android via LineageOS for microG on a Sony Xperia 5 III as their ROMs make microG painless & hardware-wise I get a fast-enough CPU, OLED, a headphone jack, & microSD.
I wish the modern xperia phones were more popular and got more love. Hardware-wise they are amazing, i just wish they had easily-replaceable batteries.
I just replaced the battery in mine. I had to get a heat gun to take off the back plate, as well as a new seal for the back plate. I’m not 100% convinced it is still water resistant, and I don’t plan on finding out.
The hardware is good & you can get phones under 6".
They have 2 big flaws: price & years of continued support. The catch 22 is you can get a good price on them after the support window (2 years, but looks like 5 will be going forward). Luckily LineageOS always picks up after the support window if willing to take on possible firmware vulnerabilities knowing software will continue to be updated—but the camera requires the proprietary apps/libs or it looks low-end.
I used to do that then I discovered that I didn’t need MicroG
Oh? I’ve been completely off Google services and apps for a decade but I still find that MicroG is nice to have for spoofing a few apps that checks for GSF to run. I’m curious how you managed to disentangle yourself to the point of not even needing MicroG.
I just get all my apps from F-Droid. For notifications I use unified push
I’m currently running GrapheneOS on a Pixel 8 Pro. I use the provided sandboxed google services because of some apps (banking, etc). I use F-Droid for most of my needs. I don’t understand what you mean by misleading advertising.
I’m using /e/ os for more than 3 years on different devices (with some customizations) and it works like a charm. An important aspect is that you can install e on any phone that has the bootloader unlock and supports GSIs - theoreticaly any device that runs Android > 9
/e/ has a gsi image which is neat!
I don’t use nor promote any banking apps or other G**gle/proprietary dependendent apps.
Why nobody talks more about e.foundation /e/ OS?
Enlighten me please 🙂
+1 for /e/OS! Brilliant combo of user friendliness with open source and privacy
why do you mention banking apps ? are they particularly difficult to run ?
So long as the browser login still works 🤷♂️
my online payments need to go through the Banxo app unfortunately
Banking (and some digital ID) apps are notoriously difficult to run on degoogled custom ROMs because they will often check for Google services and bootloader lock/root status at startup. I’ve jumped through so many hoops to hide root, spoof GSF etc. In the end I resorted to just using my bank’s website…
You’re lucky to use the website… All my banking apps need the app to login to their website. I open the app, it crashes and complains about not being a reliable system. Tried magisk and all those modules…only one of them works after all the hoops.
Yeah that’s unbelievable, I had the same experience! You must never install your bank app, otherwise it will start always requiring it.
I confirm too that banking apps on /e/ is a bit of a nightmare. But I used /e/ for 3 years or so and was very happy until I moved to GrapheneOS.
Banking apps work on Graphene ? it’s good to know because that would be a dealbreaker for me
oh that’s neat thanks for the link !!
thanks for the info
yes, most will not work as they relay on G**gle ecosystem…
I had no idea !
Any chance to use Whatsapp on /e/ ?
You can, but the question is why would you contribute to their data collection? Try: signal.org
I use Signal, but I’m unable to force everybody to do the same.
Not need to force anyone to use anything mate!
Here is my personal example: I made my choices a long time ago…
I ditched ANY:
- M$ related product/service;
- ALL Meta (as in Wazaaap);
- closed source apps;
- i have 0 IoTs around my ass, but a nice computer infrastructure built in more than a few decades;
- no friends around with i Phones …
AND still I need to do so much about privacy and my life in general and I continue to learn & apply as much as I can…
Also, I kindly invited and explained others why I choose to ditch products/software/companies/people that do not respect Humans in general and consider all of as as being just dumb “assets”…
Indeed it feels lonely sometimes, but i prefer the silence rather than noise/propaganda/parotting/or really any kind of bullshit.
Peace!
I would love to try /e/, but for some reason there is no support for the Sony Xperia 1 iii.
In fact, LineageOS is my only option, and after a bunch of time spent learning how to set it up and tweaking it to meet my needs, it’s mostly fantastic. My biggest complaints are missing camera features and no easy way to do OS updates while maintaining root.
If anyone knows of a way to automate the process of regaining root after updates, please tell me!
Are you using Magisk?
Yes
Doesn’t Magisk have a built-in superuser?
Magisk requires patching the boot image to gain root. The i believe the boot img gets overwritten during an OS update, and so each time it needs to be repatched. I’m not knowledgable enough to automate patching the boot image automatically after an OS update.
I am on a pixel 7 with graphene OS. Been great. Ive been using this phone for about a year or so now.
Also posting from a Pixel 7 running Graphene for abouta year. No issues, I use Fdroid for most apps and Aurora when I have too. Only bummer is I haven’t found a good FOSS keyboard with swipe. Really miss gboard for that and gif insertion.
Have you tried Heliboard? You’ll need to download a (proprietary?) library for it though. https://github.com/Helium314/HeliBoard
Thanks for the rec! Typing on it now. Pretty decent so far. I dig the hover on the word as i swipe
I’ve read some lemmy users dislike this OS due to perceived misleading advertising and the pixel 7a you’re supposed to install graphene on because it’s from google
There is no misleading advertisement. Go with Graphene if you own a Pixel (from Pixel 5 up) or you can find a cheap second-hand one.
there is so much false information about this OS, namely compatible phones that simply don’t work
Care to share which devices are you talking about? If a device is officially supported by the latest LineageOS version, it works.
Not sure why GrapheneOS is getting down voted so much here, did I miss something recent that happened?
I’ve been using GrapheneOS on my Pixel 6a for around 2 years and really like it.
If I couldn’t use GOS though, I would probably go with DivestOS. I haven’t looked deep into other alternative Android ROMs.
I use phones that are at least 5 year old and cost 100€ max. Graphene supports only new pixel phones, so I never got to use it. I put LineageOS with MicroG on every phone and I’m super happy with it.
Fair point, Pixels aren’t flagship expensive, but they definitely aren’t cheap either.
The reason why GrapheneOS is hated here is because one single user who spreads constantly misinfo about the project.
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While I really want the pinephone to be good, I just could not use it for daily use given its extremely poor battery life. I ended up getting a oneplus 6 and running postmarketOS before switching to DivestOS for camera support. I might switch back given that updating packages is much easier on linux compared to android.
Not next release, the one after. And even then probably not by default yet. And SXMO will not even support systemd at all. Yes OpenRC will remain an option.
systemd is good software and people should find proper reasons for disliking it for once instead of just following the hate train.
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dislike this OS due to perceived misleading advertising
It’s a non-profit, there is no advertising.
and the pixel 7a you’re supposed to install graphene on because it’s from google (an advertising company).
Yeah I dunno what that’s supposed to mean. You can’t install it on an iPhone or most other Android devices because they all have locked bootloader’s (among other reasons). They only develop for Pixel because it streamlines the development process, along with having the highest level of security in the SoC.
Another option would be lineage OS
Lineage is a great project, and fairly private, but as the name implies, it’s intended for older phones to increase their life. Not necessarily to be private.
what works for you?
Graphene
Lineage OS is a base system that you can use to get the AOSP experience with modern apps. It is most certainly not for just for older phones. It also is going to be updated more frequently than anything else.
It is most certainly not for just for older phones
No one said it was.
but as the name implies, it’s intended for older phones to increase their life
From above
Yes I’m fully aware of the comment that I wrote some hours ago. Read it again. More carefully this time.
My thoughts exactly seeing this post. Haven’t heard that particular rhetoric here before. Typing this from my Pixel 7a running GrapheneOS
The name “lineage” is because it’s a “descendant” of cyanogenmod, not because it’s intended for older phones
Would like to know too! I use a proprietary OS for now and want to jump ship with my next phone.
